I made this graph to show how many cars from each brand are still on the road. Curious to hear what you all think.
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Patricia said:
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Yeah, none of those made it to 10 years.
EnclaveLoveLinda said:
Patricia said:
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Yeah, none of those made it to 10 years.
Feels like I’m on a roast thread… yikes!
EnclaveLoveLinda said:
Patricia said:
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Yeah, none of those made it to 10 years.
Not surprised at all.
Patricia said:
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Ram hasn’t been its own brand since 2003, so it’s not worth separating Dodge trucks from cars in the early 2000s.
Buick and Cadillac might be grouped under ‘Chevrolet (GM)’, but it’s weird GMC was separated out. Most of GMC’s sales are trucks and SUVs, and mechanically, there’s hardly any difference from Chevrolet models.
Chrysler probably doesn’t have enough cars left on the road for a meaningful count.
EnclaveLoveLinda said:
Patricia said:
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
No data for Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, or Ram? Or are they too low to even show up?
Ram hasn’t been its own brand since 2003, so it’s not worth separating Dodge trucks from cars in the early 2000s.
Buick and Cadillac might be grouped under ‘Chevrolet (GM)’, but it’s weird GMC was separated out. Most of GMC’s sales are trucks and SUVs, and mechanically, there’s hardly any difference from Chevrolet models.
Chrysler probably doesn’t have enough cars left on the road for a meaningful count.
What about Lincoln?
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
Cool stuff! Got any links to your sources?
MikeYOUNG said:
Where did you get the data? Just wondering.
Got it from different places like Consumer Reports, JD Power, VDS, IQS, iSeeCars, and public data from car makers and carMD. I cross-referenced all this info and averaged it out. It’s not perfect, but it gives a pretty good picture based on what’s available.
What’s your takeaway from this? Did you adjust for any mergers or acquisitions like Ford/Volvo?
Honestly, this turned out way better than I thought for most brands. Only a 15% difference between the best and worst after 10 years? And 25% for 20-year-old cars. Not bad at all!
Mitchelle said:
Honestly, this turned out way better than I thought for most brands. Only a 15% difference between the best and worst after 10 years? And 25% for 20-year-old cars. Not bad at all!
Including newer cars skews the data a bit. I’d rather see ‘% of cars from 2003 still on the road’.
Evans said:
FordRoller said:
Patricia said:
I made this graph to show how many cars from each brand are still on the road. Curious to hear what you all think.
Can’t stand the foreign stuff.
Looks like the ‘foreign stuff’ is actually better built than the American stuff. Lean manufacturing is working.
Lean manufacturing doesn’t really affect most issues—it’s usually down to design and suppliers.
Ford went downhill when that salesman took over as CEO.
Surprised to see Kia and Hyundai so high on the list. We’ve had no issues with our Hyundais, but I thought they had a rougher reputation.
DolphGabbana said:
Surprised to see Kia and Hyundai so high on the list. We’ve had no issues with our Hyundais, but I thought they had a rougher reputation.
People still cling to the pre-2000s reputation, but that’s outdated. One Hyundai catches fire and everyone freaks out, but if 100 Toyotas have issues, people shrug it off.
We’ve got a 2015 Sonata with 150k miles and never had a check engine light. Rock solid!
DolphGabbana said:
Surprised to see Kia and Hyundai so high on the list. We’ve had no issues with our Hyundais, but I thought they had a rougher reputation.
People still cling to the pre-2000s reputation, but that’s outdated. One Hyundai catches fire and everyone freaks out, but if 100 Toyotas have issues, people shrug it off.
We’ve got a 2015 Sonata with 150k miles and never had a check engine light. Rock solid!
Don’t forget the millions of theta engine failures and the lawsuits. You’ve been lucky, but not everyone has.
GalMustang said:
DolphGabbana said:
Surprised to see Kia and Hyundai so high on the list. We’ve had no issues with our Hyundais, but I thought they had a rougher reputation.
People still cling to the pre-2000s reputation, but that’s outdated. One Hyundai catches fire and everyone freaks out, but if 100 Toyotas have issues, people shrug it off.
We’ve got a 2015 Sonata with 150k miles and never had a check engine light. Rock solid!
Don’t forget the millions of theta engine failures and the lawsuits. You’ve been lucky, but not everyone has.
I haven’t forgotten those, but Ford’s got their own issues too, like engine and transmission problems. Every brand has its faults, but Hyundai/Kia get more heat because of biased opinions.
keeganmustry said:
GalMustang said:
DolphGabbana said:
Surprised to see Kia and Hyundai so high on the list. We’ve had no issues with our Hyundais, but I thought they had a rougher reputation.
People still cling to the pre-2000s reputation, but that’s outdated. One Hyundai catches fire and everyone freaks out, but if 100 Toyotas have issues, people shrug it off.
We’ve got a 2015 Sonata with 150k miles and never had a check engine light. Rock solid!
Don’t forget the millions of theta engine failures and the lawsuits. You’ve been lucky, but not everyone has.
I haven’t forgotten those, but Ford’s got their own issues too, like engine and transmission problems. Every brand has its faults, but Hyundai/Kia get more heat because of biased opinions.
Engine failure is still rare compared to other issues. Ford’s problems are usually accessories or transmissions, but a dead engine is way worse than a potential fire risk.
Patricia said:
I made this graph to show how many cars from each brand are still on the road. Curious to hear what you all think.
Does VW rank low because of the huge buyback from the emissions scandal?